Monday, June 19, 2006

Is Alky Another Cherry OS?



Over the weekend, a website called ALKYPROJECT.COM sent press releases to most of the major Apple websites. The promises of this software not only seem impossible to deliver on, but unrealistic.

The claims sound very fishy ... and reminds me a lot of the Cherry OS. I find it quite ironic that the name of the software initiative, which is a play of WINE for Linux is also an alchohol reference ... you'd have to be drunk to make the claims this software promises.

Wikipedia definition for WINE (stands for Wine Is Not Emulation)




From the ALKY.COM website:

Alky (pronounced "AL-KEE") is a tool that allows you to convert a Windows executable to a Mac OS X or Linux binary. We are focused on high-end gaming at the moment, though we will support other applications in the future. Our binary translation layer is already working fully for OS X and Linux support is in progress. Of course, Windows applications use a very different set of libraries from Linux or OS X applications so we are also working on a library called LibAlky that will provide those Windows libraries to the application.

How is Alky different from Wine?

Alky may seem similar to Wine/libwine in many ways, but Alky differs on a few major points:

Alky requires no Wine server-like software, reducing overhead greatly.
Alky converts binaries rather than running them through it at runtime, so a vendor can use it to port an application and ship with it without requiring any additional dependencies on the user's machine.
Since Alky runs at the binary level, applications can be ported without any access to the source.
Since Alky doesn't depend on access to the source to port applications (as noted in #3) we can greatly clean up the APIs, so long as we keep them binary-compatible. This gives us a lot of freedom.


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10 comments:

Anonymous said...

FYI: It's http://www.alkyproject.com/ - www.alky.com is something else entirely.

It'll be interesting to see how this pans out.

fixyourthinking said...

Thanks for the correction: noted and corrected!

:-)

Anonymous said...

I think it may be legit, since this appears to be the same kid who brought iTunes to Linux.

Anonymous said...

Here's his blog:

http://daeken.blogspot.com/

fixyourthinking said...

Are you sure? Can you link to iTunes On Linux?

The (publicly stated) attempt at running iTunes on Linux from what I can see is made by CODEWEAVERS.

Codeweavers is located in Minnesota

Cody Brocious of http://daeken.blogspot.com is in California

Anonymous said...

It was called PyMusique. Here's a couple of articles:

http://www.forbes.com/2005/03/28/cx_ah_0328tentech.html

http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=747

I don't think the product exists anymore, maybe due to legal reasons. (I could be wrong, all I know is I can't find anywhere to download it.)

fixyourthinking said...

PyMusique was written by:

Travis Watkins
Cody Brocious
Jon Lech Johansen

That was some good detective work ... maybe you're right ... knowing DVDJon does give him some street cred ... alot of people have doubted DVDJon and he's almost always come through

Although I still have to say that:

A) I don't think this project matters with Boot Camp & Parallels Desktop out now

B) Won't matter when Leopard (10.5) has Windows program launching built in

Why undertake the headache? Also, I find the "model" impossible. How can you possibly add aqua interface elements and switch menus from Windows to screens (XP vs osX)?

Anonymous said...

A) I don't think this project matters with Boot Camp & Parallels Desktop out now

For most people, no. I think he probably just wants to see if it can be done. Also

B) Won't matter when Leopard (10.5) has Windows program launching built in

I hope so!

Why undertake the headache? Also, I find the "model" impossible. How can you possibly add aqua interface elements and switch menus from Windows to screens (XP vs osX)?

I think he probably just wants to do it to do it. Like climbing a mountain: "Because it's there".

As far as the interface elements, since he's doing this with the idea of games in mind, that wouldn't really matter, would it? Most games don't really use the OS's interface.

Anonymous said...

Comparing Alky to Cherry OS is ridiculous. Alky is open source, Cherry OS was a commercial rip-off of an open source project. The Alky FAQ also answers the questions you asked, give it a read, try compiling, then write about it.

fixyourthinking said...

Actually ... the claims are just as absurd ... it just doesn't seem possible ... and Cheery OS was a rip off of PearOS BUT went open source before it was cancelled.